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Jace Wayland ([personal profile] bloodofithuriel) wrote2019-03-23 01:23 pm

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[personal profile] unfriendlygreen 2021-03-25 10:02 pm (UTC)(link)
The marks are arbitrary but for their society to remain tenable, there has to be more Submissives than Dominants. I would guess at least 60 percent of the population is Submissives.

[ He's eyeballing it, but he knows there are more Submissives, otherwise they would be a lot more Dominants without contracts. ]
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[personal profile] unfriendlygreen 2021-03-25 10:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Jace, you will have to shed any shame regarding what you enjoy very fast in this city.

[ He spent decades at the Academy, but he never had to teach sex-ed. The Nephilim have always preferred their children repressed and unwilling to experiment.

Except the Herondales, he supposes, that line has always been special. But if he has his history right, Jace stepped out from abuse and was directly thrown in with the Lightwoods.
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Alec is being weird because this city is hell. Plus, he's likely worried you'll judge him.
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[personal profile] unfriendlygreen 2021-03-25 10:36 pm (UTC)(link)
You are from further ahead in the timeline. Things happen very quickly once Valentine reappears.

[ Not that he was there for most of it, but he's heard the story, repeatedly, with various levels of exaggeration. ]

Alec and Magnus are both from before any of it. Not entirely sure of where Isabelle is, chronologically. My timeline is different enough from yours to be frustratingly confusing, but I am several years past the Mortal War.
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[personal profile] unfriendlygreen 2021-03-25 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
I can tell you what happened in my world, but there is no guarantee things will happen the same way in yours.

[ The parallels do seem too pointed for Jace to not be a Herondale, but that just means it'd be worse if Ragnor was wrong about it. He could be a Wayland boy, raise by Valentine. He could actually be Valentine's son.

Maybe in their world there is no Sebastian. Ragnor can't be sure and saying anything about it would be irresponsible at best.
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The war will end, as all wars do. We ought to focus on the here and now.
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[personal profile] unfriendlygreen 2021-03-25 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
I did work for you Shadowhunters for decades, we must have rubbed off on each other.

[ This Jace is very close to the one he knows, but he's never been close to him. The Herondales he knew are all long gone. ]

Unfortunately for both of us, your family and Magnus are all very nosy people. You won't be able to keep them out of whatever you get up to. The Dominant who contracts you will be legally responsible for you, and if that ends up being Magnus, he will be invested.

[ He takes a drink too. He's not sorry he contracted Magnus, but there are downsides to Magnus feeling responsible for him. ]

You have time to meet other people, Magnus particularly has a large network. And you might feel safer with someone from a different world. There's less weight to it.
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[personal profile] unfriendlygreen 2021-03-25 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Someone will be responsible for you regardless of how you feel about it, and no one would want you to contract a Dominant you'd be okay with getting in trouble.

[ Ragnor can recognize that having Magnus as his Dominant has been an excellent deterrent for him, very much the main reason why he hasn't been in trouble with the city yet. ]

You don't have to have sex with your Dominant— Magnus and I don't. And I imagine looking the way you look, you won't struggle finding partners, so that part is covered, at least.

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[personal profile] unfriendlygreen 2021-03-26 06:31 pm (UTC)(link)
[ This is a lot of information Ragnor isn't entirely sure of what to do with. He'd been hoping to talk to Magnus about Jace's family— potential family, but if Jace is open to sex, then Magnus' attachment to the Herondales would only complicate the whole love triangle further. He doubts Magnus would even entertain the idea of allowing Jace to contract someone else with the Herondale possibility on the table.

Hell, Ragnor himself is not entirely sure he's comfortable with Jace contracting a stranger.
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You have time. Don't contract anyone for the time being, my own contract expires next month and we can revisit where everyone is standing then.

[ As far as Ragnor knows, not many Dominants have more than two Submissives. He has no idea if Magnus would be allowed to have four. But he's made enough friends, he could probably contract someone else and let Magnus handle his Nephilim. ]

This place is a nightmare, but you don't have to deal with it right now or by yourself.
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[personal profile] unfriendlygreen 2021-03-26 06:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I might know you better— which is odd, we've never been close.

[ He's never been as attached as Magnus is, but they're still Tessa's family. It'd be hard not to care. ]

I taught Morgenstern at the Academy, I have a very clear idea of the approach he took to child rearing.

[ It's not a great way to tell someone 'I'm aware you were abused' but he's never been known for his tact, and he wants Jace to know Ragnor is safe to have a meltdown on. ]
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[personal profile] unfriendlygreen 2021-03-26 06:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Hard to believe I'd be killed by Valentine's thugs.

[ His own situation was considerably more complicated, but it's nothing Jace needs to hear. ]

Is that why you think you landed as a Submissive? Because of Valentine's abuse?

[ Mincing words is also not something Ragnor is known for. ]
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[personal profile] unfriendlygreen 2021-03-26 07:07 pm (UTC)(link)
You did say it didn't feel arbitrary.

[ It's not an accusation. Or judgment, really. Ragnor likes being of service to others, meeting expectations, feeling like he's done a good job. He doesn't see anything wrong with it. ]
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[personal profile] unfriendlygreen 2021-03-26 07:33 pm (UTC)(link)
[ Ragnor frowns as he listens to Jace speak. Not surprised, that goes very much in line with the kind of rubbish Nephilim are fed from birth. ]

Do you believe all Downworlders to be twisted? [ It's a rhetorical question, he knows Jace doesn't, at least not consciously, and he's not trying to untangle a lifetime of being raised in a prejudiced society right now. ] Because I assure you, there is more demon blood in any of us than there is in you.

[ Valentine's lies aside, and if Jace is a Herondale, he does actually have some demonic heritage. The Jace he knows has golden eyes, the only leftover from his demonic ancestor. ]
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[personal profile] unfriendlygreen 2021-03-26 07:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Do you think Alec is twisted?

[ Seeing how Alec is dating a Shadowhunter, has settled in with a Downworlder, and has the same Submissive mark Jace does.

Ragnor knows he can't always trump feelings with logic, but identifying a toxic mindset can be the first step to addressing it.
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